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Post  Whillikers Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:45 pm

If any of you saw the FMA movie....

Did you find the twist extremely depressing....

As in how the transmutation circles worked?
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Post  Mozillo Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:13 am

[Spoilers]
How it is because of dead people and stuff?
I thought the film was okay... a bit odd to say it is Nazi Germany.... so how would they get this technology... or even have time to invest into research.... It also sucked how their father died... he was awesome.... but apparently he was like 99% blood.... Gluttony was... gay.... I thought the best line EVER from the film was in the story at the beginning where the man says, "Your rules don't apply to me, I'm a man of science!"
I could try to use that in sports.... I'd get odd looks....
[End Spoilers]

So yeah, Alphonse gave Ed's look a bad look... and Ed got an even worse look...
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Post  Whillikers Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:04 pm

Yea that!

To be honest a hellofalot of stuff was quite depressing in FMA!

Yea he was brilliant!

It was kinda nasty how he was like turning black or whatever!

[Spoilers]
Gluttony ate the philosopher's stone Razz

But come on, Ed just had to fit in with the other universe thing, and that awesome cape would have looked suspicious!

It was Colonel Mustang wasn't it?

I just can't remember the blonde ones name!
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Post  Mozillo Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:36 pm

Hawkeye?
or the big muscularly guy that sparkles... Alex something... Alex Louis Armstrong..... I think... he is always weird...
What did Colonel Mustang do?
But if Greed did do that... then couldn't he have made himself human like their dream..... and most of the point of the anime...?
Oh, When did Wrath loose his arm and leg again? I kinda forgot.....

Also Also, I think we can all agree that the ending of the FMA WAS FREAKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean, that was pretty sexy and stuff.... Apart from when Ed.... by Envy... who I always thought was female.... odd.....

I guess it was to make Ed blend in... but I mean, that Red Coat/cape thing is what made him unique.... I so want one... just like it.... it would be awesome....
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Post  Whillikers Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:44 pm

Yea that big muscly guy was really really weird!

And Colonel Mustang was the guy with the flame gloves no?

With the big explosions?

Who was greed again?

Yea there was two homunculi that I always got mixed up with cause they both had spiky hair Razz

Yea that coat was the fucking sex!
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Post  Mozillo Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:10 am

Roy Mustang is the one with the gloves.... that makes things go boom.....

Greed is the short fat one.... who can make people die by making gun noises (only once apparently) and has mega acidic saliva... also has a thing for Lust..... Because he doesn't stop talking about her..... I think.... but yeah... short, bald, fat, big forearms....

Envy was the one that turned out to be Hoenhime's son.... but was the thing with green long hair that had it coming out in long spikes.... I think the other is Wrath.... the annoying small boy.... that stole Ed's arm and leg... sure it meant that Ed is now even sexier.... but still.....
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Post  Whillikers Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:04 am

No that's gluttony Chris...

The fat one is gluttony, greed is different!

Oh yea, I still always forget though.

Like one of them was Al and Ed's teacher's baby.... but I can never remember which one!
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Post  Mozillo Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:13 am

OH Yeah!!!!!!
I forgot about the Gluttony sin.....

Wrath is the teacher's child.... she gave up her internal organs for it.... or something....

I think Greed is the "Ultimate Shield" the one who hass the carbon skin..... that is then stabbed by Ed.... but then everyone is stabbed by ed at some point....
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Post  Whillikers Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:53 pm

Yea, and she coughs up blood every now and then!

OH YEAH! That's greed! Cheers Razz Memories come flooding back!

And well yea obviously they do, he has knife hand!

I mean Ed could be fucking wolverine if he wanted to!
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Post  Mozillo Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:37 pm

Well yeah.... He could change his hand to whatever the crap he wants..... apart from a real hand.... But you'd think that changing it back into a hand would be very fiddly with all the wires so he can move the fingers....
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Post  Whillikers Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:46 am

I wouldn't say so.

I mean it was originally a hand so I'm sure there's some kind of ctrl+z transmutation he can do!
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Post  Mozillo Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:37 am

I guess so.... But then... there is the whole Equivalent exchange thing that only applies once every know and then.... if something of equal or greater value needs to be lost... then hand into sharp object... fine.... but sharp object into hand..... that doesn't seem equal... I would prefer to have a hand than a sharp object...
the whole Equivalent Exchange aspect of FMA is slightly messed up just because it is really hard to work around meaning you would probably have to have a lot of raw materials like different elements and stuff.... one thing that came to mind suddenly... Sloth.... the way she "died" was being turned into Ethanol.... but.... Ed turned Water.... into Ethanol.... Sure.... there is Oxygen and Hydrogen in Ethanol.... but unless we used up some of the floor.... where did the carbon come from... and don't say from the woman... because she was in water form at that point....
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Post  Mozillo Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:38 am

No, wait, she wasn't... and it isn't human alchemy... seeing as she isn't human....
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Post  Whillikers Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:10 pm

Equivalent trade isn't as much to do with the chemicals around, Chris. Because there'll be little bits of whatever element somewhere, especially cause Ed uses no transmutation circle he can probably use things from really really far away.

It is more that something can't have more or less mass than the other thing created!

So it's perfectly possible to change his hand into anything and back again, he'd simply have to change the density!

Or something like that. . . .

Or.... well you know!

It's hard to remember how everything went...
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Post  Mozillo Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:24 am

You probably meant shape of the object.... but even then... there are still flaws to the drawing then.... because if that is so.... when people make things come out of walls... there will only be a slight dip in the wall when it is actually REALLY big coming out of the wall... This can be shown best in the movie when Ed and Al are riding their pillar up into the sky but no crater forming.....

Either way... it = the hawt stuff....
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Post  Whillikers Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:50 pm

No, with the wall and tower thing, that's what I mean by changing density!

Because the lower the density, the higher the volume, but the mass stays the same, hence equivalent trade.

So the object becomes bigger, the mss stays the same, but the mass per unit of volume gets lower....
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Post  Mozillo Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:49 pm

But... For the mass to stay the same... there would be a limit as to how large you could make it.... for the mass to stay the same... that means it would slowly become hollower and hollower until it was like 1 molecule thick....
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Post  Whillikers Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:24 pm

Exactly!

Or he could always take some of his own blood and put it into his transmutation to make new things?

There's iron and loads of other crap in blood so he could make anything?
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Post  Mozillo Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:25 pm

So the Mass doesn't stay the same?
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Post  Whillikers Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:33 pm

Yes it does?

Cause he's changing the shape of his blood too?

So the mass is still the same.

He might use his blood in his transmutation as part of it...

So his blood is included in the mass.
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Post  Mozillo Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:10 am

But for him to use his blood.... there would have to be an open wound. More specifically... an open wound ON the rock... and the required minerals in the blood are very minimal.... so you could get... an extra centimeter...... But then, I guess there is not only just the rocks from the place they were in (which I thought was underground, so why could a plane thing get in) but from the entirety of Shamballa.... I mean... Ed is like super special awesome, he could EASILY transmute the entire globe of what I assume to be Shamballa into.... a rod..... or a road between two other planets... he has no limitations.... he is the freaking Fullmetal Alchemist! It is named after him! He is unvincible! part from when he died.... then his brother threw away his life to save Ed then Ed threw away his life to save Al.... (That bit was sooo sexy).
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